03/18/2004 Archived Entry: "Ladder Theory"
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- Hot girls who are potentials
- Hot girls
- Girls who are potentials
- Girls you can pivot from
- Guys you can pivot from
- Girls
- Guys who make you cooler just by hanging out with them (we'll call the effects of this "aura" a "positive buff". All girls give positive buffs.)
- Guys with no auras
- Complete strangers
- Guys who give negative buffs
Replies: 33 comments
Been thinking about that a bit lately?
Posted by Andrea @ 03/18/2004 02:37 PM EST
Bah. The real ladder theory completely explains modern relationships:
http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html
Posted by ian @ 03/18/2004 02:41 PM EST
My ladder theory explains MY relationships. =P
While I totally believe in the real Ladder Theory I think it could have been written a bit less misogynistically.
Posted by Rayne @ 03/18/2004 03:15 PM EST
I think you have too much time on your hands. You should do something more productive!! =P
Posted by Anonymous @ 03/18/2004 03:30 PM EST
Like getting better at WC3? I wish!
Posted by Rayne @ 03/18/2004 03:49 PM EST
hooray for ladder theory ... the real one does seem to make quite a bit of sense, even if the author is a little ... jaded ... at least he doesn't sugar coat anything, right?
but rayne ... when you give us a list like this ... don't you have to tell everyone where they stand? *snickers*
Posted by melpie @ 03/19/2004 09:35 AM EST
Yeah, I thought about it...but it'd be even more fun if people tried to guess where they stood!
Posted by Rayne @ 03/19/2004 01:08 PM EST
hmmm ... i'm among the guys that get negative buffs, right? *giggles*
i would also like to point out the irony in the fact that guy's seem to have the much more complex ladder system where a female's is much simpler ... with guy's there's always a constant reranking ... with a woman's ... there's just a choice of two ladders .. although i suppose she then ranks the guys on the second ladder ... oh dear ... i cant' remember anymore, i believe i need a ladder theory refresher course :S
Posted by melpie @ 03/19/2004 03:37 PM EST
The female ladder is much more complex.
Women have the exact same thing as men, and then they add the "friends" ladder. Women have the whole rankings system, with the added complexity of "ladder jumping".
Yes the author is... jaded, and his choice of words is a little misguided, but it's probably the best theory I've ever seen.
Posted by ian @ 03/19/2004 04:36 PM EST
The author of the ladder theory did an excellent job...his theory is sound, his writing style is humorous, and (most of all) he didn't hold back.
Posted by dAN @ 03/19/2004 06:11 PM EST
Why are there guys on your ladder? More importantly why are their guys higher then girls?!!?!?
Posted by Anonymous @ 03/19/2004 09:52 PM EST
cuz guys you can pivot from are better than girls that are just girls. Plus my ladder isn't really the same thing as that Ladder Theory ladder.
Posted by Rayne @ 03/20/2004 02:49 AM EST
fuck you real ladder theory!
are guys you can pivot from equivalent to guy that have lots of hot female friends?
Posted by shawnathan @ 03/21/2004 12:48 AM EST
Ian totally changed the topic here. I suppose it's my fault for calling it Ladder Theory in the first place.
A pivot-able person is more than just someone who has hot female friends...that's not even really necessary.
mel: you're slightly higher up than "guy who gives negative buff"
Posted by Rayne @ 03/21/2004 12:53 AM EST
That means mel is some kind of complete stranger? :)
Posted by Étienne @ 03/21/2004 03:23 PM EST
then what is a pivotable person? i don't get it...
given the events of friday, am i a guy that gives a positive buff?
Posted by shawnathan @ 03/22/2004 01:18 AM EST
yes ... does that mean that i am some kind of complete stranger? that's fun!
i think i shall be the suspicious type of stranger and wear a hat and dark glasses while driving around in my van ... hey rayne ... i lost my dog ... can you help me find it?
Posted by melpie @ 03/22/2004 09:26 AM EST
Mel is a KIND OF stranger. One who never had a dog to begin with I suspect.
A dollar does not a millionaire make!
Posted by Rayne @ 03/22/2004 01:20 PM EST
i had a dog! his name was rory. rory and i were great friends. but now, he has run away ... why won't you help me find him, rayne?
Posted by melpie @ 03/22/2004 02:32 PM EST
k, I give...I'll help you find said dog.
Posted by Rayne @ 03/22/2004 10:40 PM EST
*snickers*
hehehe ... sucker
Posted by melpie @ 03/23/2004 09:44 AM EST
Meh, it's not like you can do anything to me. Thanks for derailing, btw.
Posted by Rayne @ 03/24/2004 01:26 PM EST
yeah dude, what is a pivotable person? i'm curious too.
Posted by kim @ 03/25/2004 12:06 AM EST
It should really be self-evident, Kim!
Posted by Rayne @ 03/25/2004 01:40 AM EST
basically ... if you're a pivotable person .. he's just using you to get access to your hot friends ... so evil!
Posted by melpie @ 03/25/2004 09:28 AM EST
Like I said, a pivot doesn't have to have hot friends. They're simply your entry point to someone of the opposite sex, they can be someone super social who can meet people and then introduce you. A good pivot can also function as a wingman, talking you up, making you look good, clearing the way, not over shadow you, and not make it obvious.
I'm a good pivot, just ask Mike. =D
Get me drunk, point me to someone and pivot.
Posted by Rayne @ 03/25/2004 02:20 PM EST
I don't get why (on YOUR ladder theory) girls who are potentials are higher on the list than girls you can pivot from or guys you can pivot from.
And I don't get why (on your ladder theory) pivots don't have to have hot friends.
Isn't the idea to find hot girls who are potentials, rather than to find girls who are potentials, hence pivotable ppl (which should mean ppl with hot friends) should be higher on the list?
And don't tell me that you're not that shallow because i won't buy it!
Posted by kim @ 03/26/2004 05:33 AM EST
So what you're saying is that you would rather hang out with a friend who has hot friends than a normal looking guy who's interested in you?
The point of pivots is that they get you to a potential. So if you've already got a potential around why wouldn't the potential rank higher than a pivot?
It would be preferable to find hot girls who are potentials than just normal girls who are potentials, yes. And pivots who have good looking friends would rank higher than general pivots who facilitate meeting people, but using a pivot isn't a sure thing and if you've got a normal who's already a potential around...
I'm about as shallow as a kitchen sink.
Posted by Rayne @ 03/26/2004 12:33 PM EST
ok ... so i have a question ... are people potentials b/c you're interested in them ... or they're interested in you? b/c ... don't you think most of your potentials that you're interested in are attractive? b/c otherwise ... why would they be a potential?
Posted by melpie @ 03/26/2004 02:55 PM EST
Someone's a potential because you figure they probably have an interest in you too, right?
Of course you'd find a normal potential attractive, but there is a difference between just attractive and "Hot".
Posted by Rayne @ 03/26/2004 03:07 PM EST
All this talk of pivots and people who are hot. Why don't you just talk to the person?
Love, DJ Kimothy
Posted by DJ Kimothy @ 03/27/2004 05:15 PM EST
That's beside the point =P
Posted by Rayne @ 03/29/2004 01:58 PM EST
there is a dutch and a french translation of this dating theory. Click on my name or website to see it.
Posted by kees @ 07/10/2005 09:34 AM EST